Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:58:36 -0400
Subject: (urth) Travelling North aka miscellaneous thoughts on Wolfe
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Dreams do not take place in linear time.

Dreams do not take place just in this iteration of the World.

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> From: Tony Ellis <tonyellis69 at btopenworld.com>
>
>>Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>>How did Mary Shelly pick them out?
>
>>I'm not sure if that was a rhetorical question or not, but anyway:
>
>>Mary Shelley, famously, was inspired to write Frankenstein by a
>>*dream* she had. At a villa on Lake (hint hint) Geneva. Dr Talos isn't
>>saying events in his time influence events in ours, he's saying they
>>influence our dreams.
>
>>> What makes the ripples from the Frankenstein stone stand out from all
>>> the rest?
>
>>They don't, necessarily. Maybe we're all having dreams inspired by
>>Urthian events, all the time. It's just that in this case the dream
>>was recorded and that record  - somewhat miraculously - survived long
>>enough for one of its instigators to identify it.
>
> Again I think it depends on whether Urth is in our future or in a previous
> universe.
>
> If it's in our future, then the story is relatively simple.  There was
> Mary Shelley's dream, which led to /Frankenstein/, which Dr. Talos somehow
> knows about and recognizes.  He assumes, maybe correctly, that he and
> Baldanders caused the dream backwards in time.
>
> If it's in a past universe, as Mr. Wolfe has said, then there are three
> stories.  The one Dr. Talos knows is from Urth's younger days and may have
> been inspired by a dream.  He and Baldanders replay it, we don't know how
> faithfully.  Shelley's dream and /Frankenstein/ are an echo of those two
> stories in our universe.
>
> Jerry Friedman
>
>
>
>
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