Religious writers and audiences

brunians at brunians.org · 06 Jun 2010, 18:56 · from 2010-June.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:56:41 -0400
Subject: (urth) Religious writers and audiences
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I lack civility?

I can live with that.

I'm not really a civilian.

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>> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:03:52 -0700
>> From: cnbrewer at yahoo.com
>> To: urth at lists.urth.net
>> Subject: Re: (urth) Religious writers and audiences
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> But it strikes me as lacking civility or even a simple willingness to be
> clearly understood when you use a term in a way that likely isn't shared
> by others. Insane, of course, to most people means "crazy" rather than
> "not healthy." But it appears manipulative to put that out there when it
> seems designed to provoke a response and an argument. It's especially
> manipulative if you then act like a guru-on-the-mountain who asks
> patronizing questions about the meaning of words.
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>> Words have meanings, but they also have effects. The way you constantly
>> address the meaning of words is fine, but you seem to either ignore the
>> way they will be received by people who don't share your sense of
>> "radical" words...or you do it to provoke people. I have no idea what
>> your actual intention is, and I'm not making any guesses. But this does
>> seem to be a pattern.
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>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "brunians at brunians.org" <brunians at brunians.org>
>> To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
>> Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 12:37:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: (urth) Religious writers and audiences
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>> Atheism is just another religion.
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>> You are required, if you adhere to this religion, to insist that it is
>> not
>> a religion.
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>> Now.
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>> What does the term sane mean?
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>> What is the radical meaning of the term sane?
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>> don't see people who disagree with me as insane.
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>> > Once again you play fast and loose with terms.
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>> >> Yes, it is.
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>> >> And in a sense I agree with Brunians, because I too see the natural
>> >> universe as screaming evidence of something---in my case the absolute
>> >> unnecessariness of a anthropomorphized deity---and see no point in
>> >> forming
>> >> an argument connecting them. It just is.
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>> >> However, I don't see people who disagree with that as insane.
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>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:02:58 +0300
>> >> From: Pedro Pereira <domus_artemis at hotmail.com>
>> >> To: <urth at lists.urth.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: (urth) Religious writers and audiences
>> >> Message-ID: <COL105-W33547DB7D831FD0BAFD37585D40 at phx.gbl>
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>> >> Fair enough. Guess I missed the memo on Brunians' views and I
>> >> misinterpreted him. However it is in my opinion pointless to argue
>> such
>> >> views (or at least I have no interest in arguing those and for that I
>> >> appologise to Brunians) when one takes "the natural world (as he
>> defines
>> >> it) and the entire universe to be an argument for his beliefs and in
>> >> short, his observations are beliefs and his beliefs are
>> observations".
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Over and out.
>> >>
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