crackdown 2.0

brunians at brunians.org · 08 Jun 2010, 16:16 · from 2010-June.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:16:51 -0400
Subject: (urth) crackdown 2.0
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> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
>> On 6/7/2010 9:37 PM, Ranjit Bhatnagar wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Gwern Branwen<gwern0 at gmail.com>
>>> ??wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would also like to add a third suggestion: *please stop changing
>>>> subjects*!
>>>>
>>>> I try not to complain but merely 'mute' or 'killfile' threads I find
>>>> dull or stupid (like a great many in the past few weeks), but I cannot
>>>> do this if people keep changing the subjects - the emails with
>>>> modified subjects will land right in my inbox, and like a rat on an
>>>> intermittent reinforcement schedule, I will read it to see whether
>>>> something interesting has been said.
>>
>> I do not feel it right for you to expect everyone else to modify their
>> behavior to suit your reading preferences.
>
> I see. Will you be extending your little anarchist free speech crusade
> to the *entirety* of netiquette? Or just the parts that people bring
> up?
>
> I ask for subject changes to match genuine topic changes precisely so
> other people do not have to change what they write, to allow me to opt
> out. If they don't, then I'm forced to either unsubscribe entirely, or
> do my best to destroy each offending thread. I don't want to do
> either.
>
>>> This is also officially encouraged behavior. ??Think of it as a
>>> bureaucratic filing system - even if the topic of discussion drifts,
>>> keeping the subject the same helps keep the thread of thought
>>> together.
>>
>> Wait a minute - just two weeks ago you said "It's a good idea to edit
>> the
>> subject line of a discussion to reflect the topic being discussed" -
>> which
>> is it?
>
> There's nothing inconsistent here, except in your head.
>
> I asked you offlist to look at the list of threads for just June and
> tell me whether you thought each and every one was a genuine subject
> edit in response to a topic change. You didn't. So I'll provide an
> example from
> http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/2010-June/thread.html
>
> What topic change, pray tell, is signaled by switching from
> 'travelling north' to 'Urth Digest, Vol 70, Issue 15'?
>
> --
> gwern
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