Appearances of Inire

brunians at brunians.org · 01 Jul 2010, 12:55 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:55:03 -0400
Subject: (urth) Appearances of Inire
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Maybe 'pertains' is better than 'belongs'.

Depends. Depends upon is also good.

Belongs is not exactly correct.

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> I don't agree.  With 1), everything Tzadkiel says can be taken as the Word
> of God.  With 3), everything Tzadkiel says can be taken as being said with
> good intention.  Great gulf fixed there.
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:29 AM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
>
>> There is no meaningful difference between one and three.
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> > Right.
>> >
>> > Although now I will say such a thing.  Tzadkiel presents himself not
>> as
>> > the
>> > Outsider but as His agent.  Arguably the most important question of
>> the
>> > series is whether Tzadkiel is lying.  I think there are in fact three
>> > options:
>> >
>> > 1)  Tzadkiel is, like a Christian archangel, more or less in direct
>> > contact
>> > with the will of the deity.  Thus he/she is to be completely trusted
>> and
>> > is
>> > a more or less incontrovertible moral authority.
>> > 2)  Tzadkiel is a creepy insectoid alien thing and a liar.  The
>> > pretentions
>> > of religion are a means of controlling the human race.
>> > 3)  Tzadkiel is a "higher" being in some meaningful sense but remains
>> > metaphysically removed from the divine, like the angel in "The Cock
>> and
>> > the
>> > Angel."  His/her belief in the Increate and desire to do its will is
>> > sincere, and to that end he/she is just doing the best he/she can, but
>> > like
>> > the angel in the story Tzadkiel remains fallible and infinitely
>> removed
>> > from
>> > the mind of the Increate.
>> >
>> > I go back and forth between 2) and 3) myself.
>>
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