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Appearances of Inire
John Watkins · 01 Jul 2010, 18:09
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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 14:09:02 -0400 Subject: (urth) Appearances of Inire In-Reply-To: <4C2CD8E7.4010407 at gmail.com> References: <SNT123-W896FBC5C32F4238BC96E9CFCB0 at phx.gbl> <4C2B4F90.4040708 at gmail.com> <4C2B53AF.6040606 at gmail.com> <4C2B5CF2.3040202 at io.com> <4C2B71B3.5080308 at gmail.com> <91f2cc4d1aa001a130756f20182ad487.squirrel at webmail.prismnet.com> <AANLkTimqx0B689CjlqiByBD2fnbqDRLZG7vvjFYs0zQE at mail.gmail.com> <4C2C009C.4070402 at verizon.net> <1bd7b1bfeebd3535b788f654d9b3efd4.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C2C0586.7090503 at verizon.net> <487d2869bcbbd06452a6633012d86d83.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C2C06E3.4030806 at verizon.net> <1362277e8ba9279d24e4bc37d6ab862a.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C2C8387.5010304 at verizon.net> <AANLkTimVPuEiDXtuPejpVrcqVQUxust0ZazZ-9KU8-r6 at mail.gmail.com> <4C2CB0C2.3010607 at gmail.com> <AANLkTikeKBWxPqCxHMGwpRuIib7Itw_3-6rg-3JAHcrv at mail.gmail.com> <4C2CB798.3080009 at gmail.com> <51e717b6635d7c586255898bf2ba5d61.squirrel at brunians.org> <AANLkTilZ8KjBX-M-TGqgGID15p4KXRCy80w0gedUOEv0 at mail.gmail.com> <4C2CCC61.8030304 at gmail.com> <AANLkTikVOQBjEyu5SKm54p2kWCqy9_h8F2ZDuCyTh8PJ at mail.gmail.com> <4C2CD8E7.4010407 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <AANLkTikpr2XRUer1EmiE_OxLWQTJpeVU3d-4izb8qg5f at mail.gmail.com> 2010/7/1 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> > John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 18:22): > >> >> \ >> > A universe under the dominion of an evil being that poses and is seen as > doing God's will is consistent with the existence of a benign God? > > It's the premise of Gnosticism, isn't it? And arguably of Christianity, just on a grander scale. > Regardless, we are getting afield of the question. >> >> > I honestly think top-posting usually isn't helpful - maybe >> it's early >> > afternoon drowsiness but I can't grasp your point. >> > >> > John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 16:31): >> >> Tdazkiel's people are themselves artificial...awfully difficult >> to blame >> >> God for their control over the universe. >> >> >> >> 2010/7/1 Ant??nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com> >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>> >> >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com> >> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>>> >> >> >> >> >> Option 2 I think is untenable. >> >> >> >> - If God is good, then it makes no sense to create a >> universe in >> >> which: >> >> + God's creatures are toys in an evil power's hands >> >> + God's creatures believe that the evil power is not evil >> at all >> >> and is doing God's work >> >> + those who oppose the evil power are not, generally >> speaking, >> >> better people than the others, and in fact seem to be >> worse. >> >> >> >> - If God isn't good then by what standard can we call >> such an >> >> unfathomable being as Tzadkiel evil? >> >> >> >> Keeping option 3 doesn't mean that the acts of Tzadkiel >> need no >> >> atoning for, it just means they're done with the best of >> intentions >> >> and knowledge. 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