Appearances of Inire

António Pedro Marques · 01 Jul 2010, 22:52 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ant=F3nio_Pedro_Marques?=)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:52:19 +0100
Subject: (urth) Appearances of Inire
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John Watkins wrote:
>
>
> 2010/7/1 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com
> <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>
>
>     John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 19:09):
>
>         2010/7/1 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com
>         <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>
>             John Watkins wrote (01-07-2010 18:22):
>
>             A universe under the dominion of an evil being that poses and is
>             seen as doing God's will is consistent with the existence of a
>             benign God?
>
>         It's the premise of Gnosticism, isn't it?  And arguably of
>         Christianity,
>         just on a grander scale.
>
>
>     Could you elaborate?
>
> Yes.  Gnosticism posits that "the world" is the creation of the
> demiurge, a debased being posing as the true God, but that a benign God
> still exists and calls for our loyalty.  Gnostic Christianity (or
> Gnosticism proper) posits that Jesus Christ was a sort of messenger from
> the true God, preaching a rejection of the demiurge.  Orthodox
> Christianity refers at times to the Devil as "the lord of [the/this]
> world," with much the same significance.

But what they consider is that the demiurge is antagonistic to God. They do 
not consider the demiurge to be God, and those who they see worshipping God 
are not worshipping what they consider as the demiurge. So I think the 
parallel fails.

> See C.S. Lewis's Space Trilogy for a literalization of this kind of
> cosmology.  There, Satan is the local ruler--the planetary genius of
> Earth--and the true God is the ruler of the universe, from whom Satan
> originally had authority in fiefdom, but against whom Satan has
> rebelled.  Of course, the scale is different from the 2) hypothetical
> (planet versus universe), but from the perspective of Earth there's very
> little different.
>
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