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The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by Rudesind

David Stockhoff · 02 Jul 2010, 01:59 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:59:49 -0400
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an
	astronaut	cleaned	by	Rudesind
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That's true. So perhaps this painting is not something Wolfe made up, 
but rather a painting by a person he made up, in Borgesian fashion.

Either way, it is a study in symbols/icons becoming more real than reality.

Unless, of course, there IS a real model.

Jeff Wilson wrote:
> On 7/1/2010 6:55 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>> Jeff, no one said pulp covers were more inspirational than photos.
>>
>> But if you eliminate Apollo 11 photos and Alan Bean, what's left?
>
> A composite of iconic images, as you speculated. The Apollo 11 photo 
> of Buzz saluting the flag has the grey regolith and the gold visor as 
> well, but it was earlier Apollo 8 orbital photos that show the earth 
> rising over the lunar horizon that were hugely popularized. Some of 
> the Apollo 11 photos do show the earth in the sky, but not terribly 
> prominently. IIRC, Van Gogh was known to have put Ursa Major above 
> southern-looking European landscapes; no reason some unborn master yet 
> to paint couldn't do the same for Neil and Buzz.
>

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