The Politics Of Gene Wolfe
David Stockhoff · 04 Jul 2010, 03:30
· from 2010-July.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:30:13 -0400 Subject: (urth) The Politics Of Gene Wolfe In-Reply-To: <147808.2847.qm at web50702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <536855.45031.qm at web58204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <152912.32332.qm at web50703.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <AANLkTimLwz5MVRRSEMYT-l3tQ88GPbCglW1_k0Y4aYuk at mail.gmail.com> <4C2FACE5.3000206 at verizon.net> <AANLkTimEQe_B5Ln1j-oLxwPh8yChMKxI3nRY2SYuFtJC at mail.gmail.com> <147808.2847.qm at web50702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C300045.90909 at verizon.net> Of course that's rather a silly question to ask people in a survey: are guns A-OK, or should only the army and police have them---even pistols, that favorite weapon of well-regulated militias? It is useless in determining whether people actually think the state must allow citizens to carry concealed handguns into nightclubs or onto trains, planes, and taxis or into supermarkets, schools, churches, and libraries in gun-crime-plagued cities far from their own homes. One may as well ask: should people be required to educate themselves before they earn the privilege of voting, or should the government assign votes to each citizen? Furthermore, I am quite sure a similar majority of Americans believe that handguns are good for self-defense. I'm all for self-defense and (registered) gun ownership, but the two have little to do with one another. Jerry Friedman wrote: > *From:* John Watkins <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>: > >On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 5:34 PM, David Stockhoff > <dstockhoff at verizon.net <mailto:dstockhoff at verizon.net>> wrote: > >>John Watkins wrote: > >>>On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote: > > >>>> I'm not going to get into a debate on the correct > reading of the > >>>>Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but I think it's > >>>> possible that Wolfe is participating in the decades-old > debate on > >>>> American gun-ownership laws. His apparent view isn't > unusual or > >>>> surprising, but I think it's worth our discussion. > > >>> To the extent that Gene Wolfe expresses sympathy with the > view of the majority of > >>> Americans as to gun ownership, I agree that there's very > little "unusual" or "surprising" > >>> about that. > > >> What view is that, exactly? > > > That the right of the citizenry to possess weapons should be > relatively unencumbered. > > Here's an opinion poll from 2008. > > http://www.gallup.com/poll/108394/americans-agreement-supreme-court-gun-rights.aspx > > I suspect Wolfe was in the 11% who thought gun laws should be > less strict than they were in 2008. > > Jerry Friedman can't figure out how to get rid of those > vertical lines. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 100703-1, 07/03/2010 > Tested on: 7/3/2010 8:34:13 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > >
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net