The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by Rudesind

John Watkins · 05 Jul 2010, 12:21 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 08:21:47 -0400
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by
	Rudesind
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On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Ryan Dunn <ryan at liftingfaces.com> wrote:

> The appearance of the Autarch at House Azure opens the gates to other
> unannounced, unnamed characters appearing. He did it with Hildegrin as well,
> and a handful of other characters. Why not Inire, perhaps the most talked
> about yet never seen character??
>
>
But he isn't never-seen.  It's fairly clear that he's the tiger-shaman guy.
Now maybe he's one or more of the other candidates mentioned as well, but I
can't see why he needs to be all of them.



> You sort of proved my point for me.
>
> Why go to the trouble of giving Rudesind monkey-like description? Why have
> Eata say Inire looks like a monkey? Why have a red, wizened monkey who could
> be a man were it not for the hand-feet watching over Severian from the
> jungle above? Why, why WHY?
>
> Because Inire has a clear motive to make sure Severian's journey goes just
> so, and that he and his eidetic memory make their way to the war with the
> proper "experiences", for the inevitable trip to Yesod.
>
> No? Not sure that is as speculative as it may seem.
>
> ...ryan
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
>
> > Father Inire is never mentioned as appearing but there is at least one
> time someone appears who may be he (at the old Autarch's accident). I really
> don't think any more connections are called for. Where's the added value in
> positing that FI is, say, Rudesind? Unless it is conducive to a richer
> reading, I think speculation on any Gene Wolfe material is to be seriously
> avoided.
>
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