The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by Rudesind

Ryan Dunn · 06 Jul 2010, 14:52 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 10:52:17 -0400
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by
	Rudesind
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*honks clown nose*

...ryan

On Jul 6, 2010, at 8:19 AM, John Watkins <john.watkins04 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wait a minute now.  Severian goes out of his way to heal the girl in Sword of the Lictor.  That was an unusual display of compassion/interest for Severian, and we've only routinely seen him so interest in women for one reason.  So Severian is himself Inire.
>  
> And healing a young girl who was head/near-dying is pretty much a direct reference to the Talitha cumi incident.  So Severian is Inire and Jesus as well.  And Lewis Carroll.  (Note--Talitha cumi, or Talitha cumaean?  The pun is a bit too on-the-nose.  Maybe the Cumaean is also the girl Severian raised, through time travel?  Sure, one's a girl and one's a...snaky thing, but given the Tzadkiel precedent and the abundance of masks I feel this is a valid possibility.)
>  
> Now, there was also an X-Files episode called Talitha Cumi, but unless Gene himself is time-travelling (which I suppose we can't rule out, given Peace) I doubt it could have any connection to the Book of the New Sun, despite the character who heals people miraculously, the concealed identities, the hidden aliens, and the missing family members.  Actually, maybe I need to check Peace out again...
>  
>  
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:47 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
> That's an assumption many have made. Thecla's story indicates Inire's well-known fondness for and interest in young girls, and the way she says it suggests the kind of matter-of-fact acceptance of perversions one might find at a court. But without any evidence for sexual contact, Inire strikes me as a Lewis Carroll figure at most. The truth is we don't know why he is interested in them.
> 
> Little girls are not common enough is TBotNS to be much of a help.
> 
> 
> Jeff Wilson wrote:
> On 7/5/2010 9:47 PM, Lee Berman wrote:
> If we have a
> gold ankle ring and brown, feathery coloration to identify the Armiger's Daughter,
> perhaps monkey features, obscured eyes, lust for young girls, artistic interest and
> losing material possessions are a constellation of traits for identifying Father
> Inire.
> 
> Where does Inire display carnal interest in young girls?
> 
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