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John Watkins · 07 Jul 2010, 13:53 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 09:53:58 -0400
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by
	Rudesind
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Father Inire is an alien. Hethor was a sailor on an interstellar/universal
> spaceship. Both show suggestions of an unhealthy attraction to young human
> women.
> Should we connect these two characters based on that and the mirror
> connection?
> Or should we not connect them because it disrupts our image of Father Inire
> and
> doesn't fit with the story we know and love?
>
>
Actually, I thought we'd decided that Hethor's attraction is to sex
dolls/robots, but that he might possibly settle for the right kind of human
woman (maybe one who role-plays as a sex doll).  As for Inire, it's not
clear to me that his fondness for little girls is a sexual interest at all
(or even that he is, properly speaking, capable of such sexual interest).



> FWIW I find much of Greek mythology to have a similar weird understructure.
> Was Zeus
> the mighty, heroic god that I (and Gene Wolfe?) admired as a child, who
> defeated the
> monstrous Titans, including Typhon, and ruled among the clouds with
> fatherly grace?
> Or was he a creepy guy who killed his father and married his sister and
> spent his
> spare time using his power to seduce/rape young girls and boys like Europa
> and
> Ganymede? He is both, right? But I had to mature as a reader and as a
> person before
> I could see both sides.
>
> For me, BotNS is built (NOT coincidentally) like House Absolute. There is a
> main
> structure and a second, secret house which has been built co-extensively
> within it.
> As the Secret House was constructed by Father Inire, I find it appropriate
> to think
> the secret structure of BotNS is centered on that character. If you don't
> think there
> are undiscovered mysteries in the story or don't find the search enjoyable
> I can
> understand that. The main story is really great and I spent years enjoying
> it on that
> level alone. But I always felt there was more.
>
>
>
>
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