The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by Rudesind

James Wynn · 07 Jul 2010, 18:25 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:25:51 -0500
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by
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>
>     If Zak can change from a strange dwarf thing to a furry monster.
>     Could Inire change from a red wizened ape who could be a man, into
>     Inire, into Fechin, into Rudesind? If he IS doing these things,
>     and spying on Severian's journey, isn't that important?
>
> Where's the evidence that Inire, in particular, has the same power-set 
> as Tzadkiel?  As I understand is, Tzadkiel is a Hierogrammate and has 
> certain powers thereby--and it is not even clear that all other 
> Hierogrammates possess the same powers. Inire seems to be a 
> Hierodule.  Hierodules use illusions to conceal their facial features 
> on occasion, but they do not appear to have Tzadkiel-esque 
> shapeshifting powers.Is there evidence that Inire is in fact a 
> Hierogrammate, or that Hierodules in general can shapeshift?

Well....if there are reddish furry and monkey signifiers connected to 
Inire and lots of random human and non-human characters appearing with 
those signifiers, and Inire is never in the same room with those 
characters at the same time, then isn't that in itself evidence (albeit 
not conclusive) that Inire can shapeshift...and therefore is a 
Hierogrammate? I mean, the facts that Clark Kent is never around when 
Superman is and that both have a special relationship with Lois 
Lane...those don't PROVE that Clark Kent = Superman. But it is evidence 
in favor of the theory right?

Does it deciding that Kent is Superman change the story in any way? I 
mean, Superman still has to rescue Lois, right?

u+16b9
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>     On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
>     > I'll have to ask yet again - clues to *what*, please? IF some of
>     the characters that appear throughout the book are Inire in
>     disguise, then what? What happens? What doors open? What new
>     understanding of the story is enabled? What's the net worth of
>     such a knowledge? What is it that we don't grasp about the book
>     that we'd begin to grasp that way? No one has answered this so far.
>     >
>     > It's as if we posited that Watson's second wife was in fact Mary
>     Morstan's cousin. What would that contribute to the story?
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