Inire as a hierodule
Lee Berman · 07 Jul 2010, 20:27
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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:27:45 -0400 Subject: (urth) Inire as a hierodule Message-ID: <SNT123-W232C05ED7A461B5A506E84CFB30 at phx.gbl> >Roy Lackey- Since you have claimed that both Rudesind and Fechin are really Inire, it >doesn't really matter, does it? They are all the same person, and I guess >the part about being a boy is just a lie. And I guess the old man at >Casdoe's cabin lied about being a boyhood friend of Fechin's, too. Because, >in the interest of pedantry, I feel obliged to point out that Inire had been >vizier to all the autarchs, going back at least a thousand years to Ymar. >Maybe Inire had a protracted boyhood and only grew up and got old in the >last seventy years or so. "claimed" is such a harsh word, Roy. So final and legalistic. I prefer "suggested" or "offered possibility". Anyway I don't think you have the right mind set for how such a thing could work. Ryan Dunn is more along my way of thinking- using Tzadkiel as a model for shapeshifting. A giant shapeshifting being who can squeeze off smaller parts which themselves can shapeshift. I wonder if the giant Tzadkiel that Severian sees on her throne is even the biggest version of him/her. Anyway, so, like Tzadkiel, these squeezed off pieces could act as various agents at various times. One could look like a proboscis monkey with a long nose, one like a uakari with almost no nose, one like a cynocephallic baboon, one like a long-armed, red-haired artist etc. I would expect each one to have an identifying mark to tie them back to the original being though, like the Armiger's Daughter. Part of good story telling. Where might a gigantic original being which could spawn Father Inire copies actually reside while on Urth? Where indeed. I could also wonder from whence did Juturna and her "sisters" originate? Does a squeezed off piece of Abaia have to be male? I think Seawrack and The Mother in Blue's ocean might be another example of a similar relationship. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1
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