The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by Rudesind
António Pedro Marques · 07 Jul 2010, 21:33
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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QW50w7NuaW8gUGVkcm8gTWFycXVlcw==?=) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:33:17 +0100 Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by Rudesind In-Reply-To: <DB46B940-E4FD-4BE0-8DDD-0E11013AA2C6 at liftingfaces.com> References: <SNT123-W256DB5C8585628C8109423CFB30 at phx.gbl> <520E36C4-BC0B-4DFE-8F64-BC9EB1D9BF4C at liftingfaces.com> <4C34A1F4.6030501 at gmail.com> <F7C7A8D7-66C9-4746-9662-C742E53311FE at liftingfaces.com> <AANLkTilkfznBstbta55hgfGmNqnPuJiBaxTBg1nk4CNf at mail.gmail.com> <4C34C6AF.9060709 at gmail.com> <4C34C8AF.70507 at gmail.com> <152f839bbd02f83fc03a5318462443d7.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C34D82D.5070500 at gmail.com> <4C34DA51.8040901 at gmail.com> <4C34ED71.2020108 at gmail.com> <4C34EDED.3070502 at gmail.com> <DB46B940-E4FD-4BE0-8DDD-0E11013AA2C6 at liftingfaces.com> Message-ID: <4C34F29D.3080805 at gmail.com> Maybe I should point out in more detail how the two things you are confusing are quite distinct. - One is the author having a purpose for including something in the story. The thing is there because it serves some end. That is its narrative advantage. - The other is the reader having a purpose for making assumptions about what happens in the story, i.e., speculation. Speculation is justified because it enables a novel or in some way extended reading. In fact, the reason you've provided yourself for justifying speculation is that it serves to find a narrative advantage to things which otherwise you think don't have any. Now, I'm not a fan of the idea that everything must provide narrative advantage. In fact I think a decent lengthy book should have detail in it that is there only for its own sake. Maybe it could provide narrative advantage in a parallel story. Maybe the fact that the character forded 3 instead of 2 brooks could be significant in some untold story about that place. Maybe the story can even be written one of these days. In short, I don't think everything in a book should serve some purpose within that book. But reader speculation must, because with all the stuff that Wolfe left lying there to toy with, if you don't set some standard, then you can go on indefinitely at random. Whereas you've done the reverse: you think everything in the stpry must serve some purpose, yet speculation is free to roam. Ryan Dunn wrote (07-07-2010 22:18): > Exactly, or Ouen being her son, or a boatman looking for 'Cas. Or FBO going backwards in time only to keep meeting Severian as if by chance? > > ...ryan > > On Jul 7, 2010, at 5:13 PM, James Wynn<crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Whereas no one has yet explained just what the >>> considering-that-some-characters-in-the-BNS-are-Inire brings to the table. >>> Lee points to it enlightening Inire's nature and motivations, but I find >>> that sketchy. Could your camp do some more sketching, perhaps? >> >> What's the narrative advantage of Dorcas being Severian's grandmother? > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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