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brunians at brunians.org · 07 Jul 2010, 23:33 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:33:20 -0400
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned
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Why is this a problem?

People do these things.

I have done all of these things.

I do some of them quite regularly.

What the hell do you think you are saying?

Do you think that the stuff that you describe is somehow esoteric?

Do you believe that everyone in the World is as isolated from Reality as
you are?

I assure you that there are several people who are not.

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> Um, yes it is, actually. Unless you can explain how it is that the
> person not only puts on a mask and changes his clothes but also
> disguises his voice. Has he learned to control his own habitual gestures
> and verbal tics? How? Where? Has he practiced the vocabulary and
> inflections of another age and social level? Where?
>
> If you can answer those questions, you have a theory. If you don't,
> you're merely asserting and following that up with complaining.
>
> On 7/7/2010 5:02 PM, John Watkins wrote:
>>
>>     Same with Inire. His physical absence in conjunction with his
>>     omnipresence means "LOOK FOR SIGNS" to me, because that is in
>>     keeping with the literary style of Grandma Dorcas. In fact, it's
>>     PRECISELY the type of thing Wolfe is asking of us.
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure that anyone has said that there's nothing to be found in
>> all the various clues about Inire.  The question is whether it makes
>> any sense to assume that every candidate for being Inire-in-disguise
>> is in fact Inire-in-disguise, and the dialogue has gone much like this:
>
> This is not really the course of the argument as I saw it. I can come up
> with an equally tendentious synopsis of the course of this argument from
> the other side. To a large extent (not in every case) the course of the
> argument has been people showing how smart they are by coming up with
> counter-evidence that is totally beside the point.
>
>>
>> "X might be Inire.  They both look like monkeys!"
>>
>> "Well, X doesn't act much like Inire."
>
> Well, that's not really surprising for someone in disguise.
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