Urth Net

← back to the conversation

The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned byRudesind

Mr Thalassocrat · 08 Jul 2010, 03:15 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: thalassocrat08 at gmail.com (Mr Thalassocrat)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:45:40 +0930
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned
	byRudesind
In-Reply-To: <011001cb1e42$e4e6d900$08cf4a0c@rclackey>
References: <SNT123-W256DB5C8585628C8109423CFB30 at phx.gbl>
	<520E36C4-BC0B-4DFE-8F64-BC9EB1D9BF4C at liftingfaces.com>
	<4C34A1F4.6030501 at gmail.com>
	<F7C7A8D7-66C9-4746-9662-C742E53311FE at liftingfaces.com>
	<AANLkTilkfznBstbta55hgfGmNqnPuJiBaxTBg1nk4CNf at mail.gmail.com>
	<4C34C6AF.9060709 at gmail.com> <4C34C8AF.70507 at gmail.com>
	<152f839bbd02f83fc03a5318462443d7.squirrel at brunians.org>
	<4C34D82D.5070500 at gmail.com> <4C34DA51.8040901 at gmail.com>
	<4C34ED71.2020108 at gmail.com> <4C34EDED.3070502 at gmail.com>
	<4C34EF25.7030109 at gmail.com> <4C34F4E3.9020109 at gmail.com>
	<CE561AAB-21F2-499F-B49A-4F53EA6F441B at liftingfaces.com>
	<AANLkTilycxXW-LhpDPTxDpHDWeoeJ2KcSN_epXSqmVsj at mail.gmail.com>
	<011001cb1e42$e4e6d900$08cf4a0c@rclackey>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxcMYPDtgTAAP8s5wzWrIQNf-hJmQvvvYEPNXS at mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Roy C. Lackey <rclackey at stic.net> wrote:

<sensible stuff>

+1.

Another +1 for Antonio's standard, which I phrase as: does a proposed story
enhance the overall story, or not? I enjoy Wolfe because he is not just a
creator of "puzzle boxes". Rather, he creates opportunities for discovering
and constructing within the white space stories which enrich the
narrative-as-told. Not in some cheap hermaneutic, "hidden meaning",
explanation-of-everything, whatever, sense; but in the sense of enriching
one's sense of the characters, their motivations, their possibilities etc
etc.

Sometimes I don't think he pulls it off: eg "An Evil Guest". I just can't
find a story-enhancement reward for the effort of trying to work out the
white space, in that one.

Another eg: Sev's family. The text seems to have all kinds of hints inviting
us to try to figure out his family tree, but I think there is neither enough
information nor enough story-potential to do anything with this except drive
oneself bat-shit crazy.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20100708/dc5a0632/attachment.htm>

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net