Tzadkiel/Melek Taus
António Pedro Marques · 09 Jul 2010, 15:08
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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QW50w7NuaW8gUGVkcm8gTWFycXVlcw==?=) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:08:24 +0100 Subject: (urth) Tzadkiel/Melek Taus In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil-Aa-cFar-BMraw4mjSzit5pnRNQZ65XPa4xDO at mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTiksy2xSZYAhIYNFOHZxQ8JNWq9nVnximiT_zHB_ at mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTinL0Au5EU73SiBRhmZXv7CZrIVNbqqDW8oKgtvQ at mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTilEW8QQYfHkf9vmhFpu36lZB8zLEO4EIC0VQTA8 at mail.gmail.com> <5468CF4DE0B74D4CBF1097F9822150AA@jill> <AANLkTimXhn4F9pNFDJlha-mENvCkTv7iB8aWRYDBYvj7 at mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTil-Aa-cFar-BMraw4mjSzit5pnRNQZ65XPa4xDO at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C373B68.3000506 at gmail.com> This is worth pursuing but I think there are a number of problems with it. If Tzadkiel is honest, his intent is to renew the planet and give Humanity a new chance. If there is an afterlife then drowning almost everyone isn't such a catastrophe as it might seem. The fact is that the world is in dire need of moral cleansing, not only terraforming, and I don't see how you achieve the former without some global disaster that at once decimates the population and changes the natural environment. The new world will have a chance to be good. If Tzadkiel is a liar, then I don't see what does he gain by destroying the world. Sure, he could do it out of sheer evilness, but I don't find it convincing that he would take all that trouble just to have a 5 minute massacre sport. We tend to associate evil with selfishness, and to annihilate your potential servants makes little sense selfishly. And if the intent is to take pleasure in killing them, then a global drowning is possibly one of the least interesting methods - quick and clean. If otoh he wishes to wipe out Humanity for whatever reason, giving a renewed planet to a reduced population seems to run counter to the objective. Moreover, if Tzadkiel could send the new sun to destroy the world, why not just do it without all the hocus pocus? And if he didn't have that power all by himself, then whoever did have the power is calling the shots, not Tzakdiel. You mention Severian could have asked for the population to be evacuated. Well, could the building of the Whorl have been done not out of fear that the sun would die out, but that the flood could be irreparably deleterious? And where would you take all those wicked people, and how would you reform them? If it were easy, what would a new Earth be needed for? In the dying earth future, my impression is that the population had been steadily declining for ages. Does Severian not asking for an evacuation imply that he is evil as well? I suppose your idea is that he is so embroiled in Tzadkiel's way of presenting things that such a question doesn't even cross his mind.
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