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António Pedro Marques · 09 Jul 2010, 20:04 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?QW50w7NuaW8gUGVkcm8gTWFycXVlcw==?=)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 21:04:08 +0100
Subject: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned
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James Wynn wrote (09-07-2010 15:38):
>
>>>>> James Wynn said: I've made a request of you: Replaced "Rudesind is
>>>>> Inire" with "Doras is Severian's grandmother" and answer the same
>>>>> question. The answer is the same in both instances. You've dodged
>>>>> this challenge repeatedly.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/8/2010 6:55 AM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote: ?? You've asked it
>>>> ONCE, I've reported you to the endless discussions on that at the time
>>>> it was put forward, and I've explained how it isn't a good analogy.
>>>
>>> James Wynn wrote (08-07-2010 13:30):
>>> ??? Here are the following threads you've responded to on this:
>>>
>>>>> Me: What's the narrative advantage of Dorcas being Severian's
>>>>> grandmother?
>>>>
>>>> On 7/7/2010 4:18 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote: I'm not talking about
>>>> narrative advantage. I'm talking about speculative advantage. And as a
>>>> side note I'm against the idea of narrative advantage. I don't see that
>>>> real life employs it, why should fiction?
>>>
>> On 7/9/2010 5:56 AM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
>> This is 'I've explained how it isn't a good analogy'.
>
> Actually, I'm pretty sure you haven't. Cite the email where you did. And
> it won't count unless you use the words "Dorcas" and "grandmother". If
> you have, I can't understand why you haven't cited it. Perhaps your
> answers are in code.

Can't you even understand quotes now?

Breathe a little, read again, then come back.

> Unless you can properly cite your explanation, you've dodged the
> challenge a FOURTH time.
>
> Incidentally, by your specialized English, explaining "how it isn't a
> good analogy" isn't an "answer". But since I'm pretty sure you haven't
> done this in relation to "How does Dorcas being Severian's grandmother
> provides any 'speculative advantage'? ", that fact is irrelevant.
>
>>> I said:
>>> I remember when the grandmother theory was posed. There was no more
>>> textual evidence for it than this Hairy Inire theory. The only reason
>>> it's not sitting on the "Half-baked Theory" pile today is because Wolfe
>>> uncharacteristically confirmed it to a questioner.
>>
>> On 7/7/2010 6:05 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
>> It's probably the only 'puzzle' in the book that everyone gets. The
>> only way
>> it could be more transparent would be if instead of Cas the boatman would
>> have called her Dorcas. It's not like the boatman calls her Fifi.
>
> This "transparent" puzzle was only understood some 20 years after the
> book was published.

Is this an intentional lie or a sign that you're just too uninformed and 
full of yourself to be worth talking to?

> I'm sure you would have been on the list explaining
> it a week after the SotT was published if you had had the opportunity.

You're apparently sure of many things that are wrong.



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