lots of stuff

Jeff Wilson · 12 Jul 2010, 22:34 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:34:04 -0500
Subject: (urth) lots of stuff
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On 7/12/2010 4:50 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
> James Wynn wrote (12-07-2010 21:10):
>
>> If Inire=Inuus, then it would follow that Father is a literal title. But
>> the obvious question is "father of whom or what?"
>
> I always associate Father Inire with Dworkin from Zelazny's Amber
> novels. Dworkin is supposed to have fathered the king of Amber through a
> unicorn. (The king was AWOL during the novels.)

Um....Didn't you think it was kind of odd the way Corwin's henchman 
Gamelon from a Shadow was able to one-punch Girard, the biggest, 
toughest brawler on the true earth?

I see Oberon as being more like Inire: the crafty, hidden manipulator 
and kingmaker, but there's a bit of the old Autarch's multiple guises 
and manipulating both sides as a double-double agent.

Both series deal with some similar themes, and Zelazny's attitude is 
very different from Wolfe's, but it is interesting how close the 
internal attitudes of Corwin and Severian are, while ending up in 
opposite directions. Both acknowledge they are villainous, selfish men 
but regrettably find themselves the best of a bad lot, but the much more 
self-confident Corwin refuses the throne he'd sought after while the 
self-doubting Severian embraces literal responsibility for everyone on Urth.

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