lots of stuff

David Stockhoff · 13 Jul 2010, 01:32 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:32:44 -0400
Subject: (urth) lots of stuff
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Wow. I knew "inire" but I did not know "finire." That's plenty of 
solution for me.

But I agree that these are not "real" names. Inire probably has his own 
name, which we don't know.

James Wynn wrote:
> Well, I'm the guy who argues that the word "inhuma" comes from a 
> complex and multi-layered word association with the name "Dionysus", 
> so swim at your own risk. Puns are a tricky thing to emphatically 
> prove, I know from experience. Usually, the punned terms and names 
> have a ready casual association as well. But Inire is another matter. 
> In answer to your question, I can't think of another instance in which 
> Wolfe breaks his established naming precedents so emphatically...and 
> well...*badly*. So I say Inire's singularity is part of the argument 
> FOR a word game in this instance.
>
> The hierodules Ossipago, Barbatus, and Famulimus are named after minor 
> divine beings or, in Ossipago's case, a minor name for Hera. They are 
> not named for saints (except in that saints are often Christianized 
> minor divinities). It is not unreasonable to expect that Inire would 
> be named for a minor god as well. What if "Father Inire" is a 
> malformation of the actual name he gave...a name that was difficult 
> for those whom he first encountered to pronounce or even hear 
> properly. That would explain why he is the only one with the title 
> "Father": When he said "Fenrir", they heard "Father Inire" or that was 
> an approximation they chose. Just as Horn named his new girlfriend 
> "Seawrack" because it was close to the foreign sounding name she gave. 
> And, as with O,B, & F, "Fenrir" would be a name that suites Inire's 
> role--not in nurturing Severian as they do--but something more final: 
> bringing the New Sun and the end of Urth. I guess Fenrir isn't the 
> only possible option but it certainly fits the bill. And Fenrir's 
> actions are also associated with the name they gave him: the the Latin 
> "finire", meaning "to end".
>
>

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