lots of stuff

John Watkins · 13 Jul 2010, 15:02 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: john.watkins04 at gmail.com (John Watkins)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:02:54 -0400
Subject: (urth) lots of stuff
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Ryan Dunn <ryan at liftingfaces.com> wrote:

> Fascinating.
>
> I only wish Fr. Inire to Fenrir was a true anagram.
>
> F E N R I R
>
> F R I N I R E
>
> One too many I's, unless we get epically poetic:
>
> I, Fenrir
>

Plausible.  We live in a universe in which J.K. Rowling indulges in similar
games.


>
> or we get back to origins:
>
> Fenrir I
>
> As in Fenrir the First, with Fechin and Rudesind (boatman?) as cloned
> descendants.
>
>

I don't think so.  Clones who don't look much like the original?


> ...ryan
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 10:48 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > It seems like a stretch, but I for one expect that Wolfe will stretch for
> a wolf reference. I think he expects us to expect that of him.
> >
> > The words "inire" and "finire" (initiate/begin and bring to an end) are
> enough to start us off on that path, combined with the logical "Fr. Inire."
> He probably began the Autarchy, he initiates Urth into a mystery, he
> facilitates the end with the last Autarch.
> >
> > I'll bet the man is a mean crossword puzzler.
> >
> > Thomas Bitterman wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com <mailto:
> crushtv at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>        That may have been a bit hasty, but the even though the
> >>        fettered Fenrir
> >>        was tied to Gyoll, Inire is awfully mobile about his duty
> >>        station and
> >>        commands means of egress and ingress - his position is more like
> >>        Heimdall guarding Bifrost and standing sentry over doings in
> >>        distant
> >>        places on other worlds. It doesn't hurt that Heimdal is also the
> >>        "Father" of the classes of men, in disguise as another person yet
> >>
> >>
> >>    Just when I'm ready to leave the Norse association behind, you
> >>    pull me back in. You're right about Heimdall because he's the
> >>    Norse Janus. The link between Janus, Pan, and Osirus is Priapus
> >>    who was variously associated with all of them. Heimdall, as the
> >>    father of humanity, fits right in there. That leaves us here with
> >>    reasonable mythological associations for Typhon, Severian, and Inire.
> >>
> >>    The only frustrating thing is that the monster Typhon doesn't fit
> >>    for any this. Fenrir doesn't fit for any of this either except in
> >>    one way. He is an important father too...he's the father of the
> >>    race of wolves. And, yeah, his rock is Gyoll which is also a
> >>    mythical river.
> >>
> >>
> >> Fenrir as father of "Wolfe"s is good enough for me.
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