lots of stuff

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:10:51 -0400
Subject: (urth) lots of stuff
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> Fascinating.
>
> I only wish Fr. Inire to Fenrir was a true anagram.
>
> F E N R I R
>
> F R I N I R E
>
> One too many I's, unless we get epically poetic:
>
> I, Fenrir
>
> or we get back to origins:
>
> Fenrir I
>
> As in Fenrir the First, with Fechin and Rudesind (boatman?) as cloned
> descendants.
>
> ...ryan
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 10:48 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> It seems like a stretch, but I for one expect that Wolfe will stretch
>> for a wolf reference. I think he expects us to expect that of him.
>>
>> The words "inire" and "finire" (initiate/begin and bring to an end) are
>> enough to start us off on that path, combined with the logical "Fr.
>> Inire." He probably began the Autarchy, he initiates Urth into a
>> mystery, he facilitates the end with the last Autarch.
>>
>> I'll bet the man is a mean crossword puzzler.
>>
>> Thomas Bitterman wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:crushtv at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        That may have been a bit hasty, but the even though the
>>>        fettered Fenrir
>>>        was tied to Gyoll, Inire is awfully mobile about his duty
>>>        station and
>>>        commands means of egress and ingress - his position is more like
>>>        Heimdall guarding Bifrost and standing sentry over doings in
>>>        distant
>>>        places on other worlds. It doesn't hurt that Heimdal is also the
>>>        "Father" of the classes of men, in disguise as another person
>>> yet
>>>
>>>
>>>    Just when I'm ready to leave the Norse association behind, you
>>>    pull me back in. You're right about Heimdall because he's the
>>>    Norse Janus. The link between Janus, Pan, and Osirus is Priapus
>>>    who was variously associated with all of them. Heimdall, as the
>>>    father of humanity, fits right in there. That leaves us here with
>>>    reasonable mythological associations for Typhon, Severian, and
>>> Inire.
>>>
>>>    The only frustrating thing is that the monster Typhon doesn't fit
>>>    for any this. Fenrir doesn't fit for any of this either except in
>>>    one way. He is an important father too...he's the father of the
>>>    race of wolves. And, yeah, his rock is Gyoll which is also a
>>>    mythical river.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fenrir as father of "Wolfe"s is good enough for me.
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