UotNS and how it screws with your head

David Stockhoff · 13 Jul 2010, 18:27 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:27:28 -0400
Subject: (urth) UotNS and how it screws with your head
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Interesting. I think that the Briahns can direct the flow of energy any 
way they want; this supports that notion.

The "timing" may be a false concern.

Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> From: "David Stockhoff" <dstockhoff at verizon.net>
>
>> When?
>
> That may not be a very sensible question.  White holes, effectively, 
> travel backwards in time; and this is supported in the text by the 
> negentropic effects such as healing the sick and raising the dead 
> which Severian effects by way of his association with the White Fountain.
>
> We know that the black hole was created, or arrived, during the reign 
> of Typhon.  I am not certain that it makes sense to worry about when 
> the white hole becomes physically present in our universe, or indeed 
> how and even whether it travelled to the Sun.  About the only thing we 
> know for certain is that gravitational radiation is emitted shortly 
> before the final merging of the black and white holes; the ringing of 
> the bells does suggest that the two entered an inwardly spiralling orbit.
>
> Time does not run in Yesod as it does in Briah... an event in Briah 
> might happen at any Urthly time coordinate, or perhaps at more than one.
>
> There is also the issue of mass - surely the black and white holes 
> have to be the same size to cancel each other?  i suppose it would 
> work well enough if they were *approximately* the same mass, but still...
>
> - Gerry Quinn
>
>
>
>> Gerry Quinn wrote:
>>> I think it was the white fountain too.
>>>  Of course, there is another issue with the white fountain, which 
>>> Mr. Thallassocrat, at least, may find interesting.  The concept of a 
>>> white hole comes from the maximally extended Schwarzschild solution 
>>> for a black hole.  Few nowadays think that white holes exist in 
>>> nature - but if one does it should be associated with a black hole 
>>> (though perhaps in a different universe).
>>>  It would also make sense in that the result of combining the two 
>>> should be to negate both - this doesn't seem so probable if an 
>>> arbitrary black hole meets an arbitrary white hole.
>>>  Could Severian, therefore, also have created the black hole in the 
>>> Sun?
>
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