On Pedophillia and Homosexuality

David Stockhoff · 22 Jul 2010, 02:57 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:57:45 -0400
Subject: (urth) On Pedophillia and Homosexuality
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That's a good point.

brunians at brunians.org wrote:
> Severian is an excellent judge of human nastiness.
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>> I agree. Although I am skeptical that the "boy" is a catamite. Severian
>> thinks so, but he can be wrong.
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>> Matthew Weber wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Nicholas <nickjost at yahoo.com
>>> <mailto:nickjost at yahoo.com>> wrote:
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>>>     " don't see where you get this from.  Granted Baldanders is not
>>>     shown as having any sexual interest in women, and by default one
>>>     might assume that such a character might (or might not) be gay.
>>>      But the modified child in his bed hardly qualifies as a man."
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>>>     You make two bad assumptions that the classic world didn't. The
>>>     first is that sexual preference is fixed. As I pointed out this is
>>>     a new (and I think very wrong) idea. Two, that the boys essential
>>>     nature isn't human and male.  What is he, a female mouse? A Greek
>>>     wouldn't understand the fine difference you're driving at to
>>>     protect modern sensibilities (sensibilities trained by a halting
>>>     assumption of Christian ethics). What difference does it make when
>>>     I sleep with a slave that is three or thirty?
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>>> I wouldn't even say a halting assumption of Christian ethics; it's the
>>> influence of the late 19th-century construction of the innocence of
>>> childhood (of course, only middle- and upper-class children were
>>> innocent, as a perusal of the literature on Victorian child prostitution
>>> will show).
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>>> Nicholas' comments about sexual orientation are spot-on--see
>>> Foucault's History of Sexuality for some very illuminating thinking on
>>> this subject.
>>> --
>>> Matt +
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>>> A grudging and infrequent worshipper of the gods.
>>>     Horace [Quintus Horatius Flaccus] (65-8 B.C.), Odes, bk. I [23
>>> B.C.], ode xxxiv, l. 1
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