On Pedophilia and Homosexuality

brunians at brunians.org · 22 Jul 2010, 03:40 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:40:18 -0400
Subject: (urth) On Pedophilia and Homosexuality
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It's real easy to suppress the nonconsensual aspects of such behavior if
you are willing to beat the kids.

I imagine the queer kids fucked each other, the hetros fucked the witch
girls, the special guys like Sev and his buds got a free pass to a
seriously classy whorehouse.

You know he didn't just go to the whorehouse once.

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>
>
> Here are the suspicious circumstances to me on this issue in BotNS-
>
> 1. Conspicuously absent is mention of homosexual activities among the
> members of the guild.From prisons to Greek armies to British boarding
> schools, such behavior is rather well-known in such isolated all-male
> settings but it is not mentioned here.
>
> If this was Lord Of The Flies (1954) leaving such a thing in subtext
> but unspoken would be understandable. But this story describes some
> pretty bizarre sexual situations, from grandmotherly incest to sex
> with alien beings. Why avoid all mention of this thing?
>
> Severian would have us believe he had no sexual thoughts or activities
> before age 20 and his meeting of Thecla, the House Azure, etc. I wonder
> about a few mentioned items, such as the fear the apprentices have of
> the Witches Tower and how Master Gurloes fears he will not be able to
> perform when ordered to sexually abuse a woman. Severian suggests the
> beast handler guild is similar to his own, and they each take an animal
> in marriage. What do the torturers do? I don't get the impression
> Master Gurloes frequents the House Azure.
>
> 2. Severian becomes sure the Old Leech has a pedophilic interest in his
> 13 year old assistant because of an unsolicited denial of it.
>
> 3. Severian gives us an unsolicited denial of sexual play between himself
> and Little Severian. I always think to myself at that part, "actually,
> Severian, I never considered the possibility....until you brought it up".
>
> 4. Also odd is Severian's conversation with a Pelerine about the lonliness
> of soldiers and their need for a sense of authority.
>
>
> Pelerine- "Some, of course, form bonds with others in the ranks.
> Sometimes
> several share a single woman or a man who is like a woman.  Some make pets
> of animals, and some befriend children left homeless by the struggle"
>
> Severian- "Remembering Casdoe's son, I said, 'I can see why you object to
> that'.
>
> Pelerine- "We do not object- most certainly not to that, and not to things
> vastly less natural".
>
> Severian is known as an unreliable narrator, but on this topic I think he
> could be especially unreliable.
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