Rudesind / Inire / Lunar Picture

David Stockhoff · 27 Jul 2010, 11:18 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:18:35 -0400
Subject: (urth) Rudesind / Inire / Lunar Picture
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Only that Wolfe is very careful with his idioms and his voices. Recall, 
for example, that the cacogens speak in blank verse.

Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> From: "Jeff Wilson" <jwilson at io.com>
>> Also, "your blue Urth" is ultimately the translator's choice of words,
> not necessarily a literal translation of what Severian recorded. "Your
> [item]" is part of an English idiom that is popular among craftsmen who
> work on other people's property, perhaps like an engineer who has been
> hired to improve an existing potato chip production line, and this has
> become a marketing tool where "your" addresses the audience even if they
> don't own the item yet, and even if the crafter is promoting a recipe or
> abstract idea rather than a service.
>> Googling "your basic" yields 2 million + examples of this modest
> variation, but the idiom is at least decades old; "Your Show of Shows"
> debuted in 1950.
>
> This use of "your" is common in Ireland, and has almost certainly been 
> so for generations.. A very common version is "your man" meaning "that 
> man", as in "[Do you] see your man over there?".
>
> Other versions use "your" in place of "the", as in "Your frog, now, [ 
> in contrast to some previously mentioned creature] is a  more 
> amphibious type of fellow".
>
> Of course the idiom may not be as common everywhere; but for me 
> Rudesind's use of "your"
> carries no special implications relating to ownership or origin, and 
> such implications never occurred to me before I saw them discussed on 
> this list.
>
> - Gerry Quinn
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