Rudesind/Inire/Lunar Picture

David Stockhoff · 29 Jul 2010, 19:11 · from 2010-July.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:11:46 -0400
Subject: (urth) Rudesind/Inire/Lunar Picture
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It is a poorly understood phenomenon, and I do not pretend to expertise 
on the subject.

I seem to recall there was a bad movie about it once ... perhaps angels 
trade wings for genitals when that happens.

Jeff Wilson wrote:
> On 7/29/2010 1:22 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>> I forget where Wolfe discusses it. I thought 2 of them spoke in blank
>> verse.
>>
>> Either way, Wolfe puts much thought into his dialog: diction,
>> vocabulary, rhythm, colloquialisms. His characters, as Shakespeare put
>> it somewhere, "unfold themselves" through speech. By their speech ye may
>> know them, every time. Except when they fake another's.
>>
>> We disagree on the meaning of
>>
>> "he is one of those few who have chosen to cast their lots entirely with
>> humanity, remaining on Urth as a human being."
>>
>> This is like reading a metaphor comparing a woman's head to a mason's
>> hammer as implying that her head is made of metal. Such a person has
>> merely given up all his rights and powers as a cacogen; he has not
>> actually chosen a new form. However, since the analogy seems to be to
>> fallen angels, I guess the loss of wings meets both criteria without
>> contradiction.
>
> How does that work? I don't see losing the wings would be equivalent 
> to gaining mortal flesh.
>

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