Serpents and Undines
brunians at brunians.org · 01 Aug 2010, 18:11
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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 14:11:11 -0400 Subject: (urth) Serpents and Undines In-Reply-To: <4C55B5F1.4080708 at verizon.net> References: <SNT123-W60A3BA68B6F64EC2BF06CACFAA0 at phx.gbl> <4C546555.9020108 at verizon.net> <4C54ED23.7020301 at io.com> <4C556F2D.6060304 at verizon.net> <4C5577DE.6060509 at io.com> <4C55B5F1.4080708 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <2c11fa8a24c2f7c28ab17dd2c35d3d5b.squirrel at brunians.org> Vodalus, whatever else one may say about him, was dedicated. I'm reasonably sure that it was sufficient for him. If Agia was decent about killing him, I am absolutely sure. I think Agia would not attempt to torture someone she had nothing personal against. . > I'm not sure either. I'm just asking. > > Vodalus certainly failed in becoming autarch, yes, and yes, his servant > gained the throne. This is not a success for Vodalus, but it is far from > being a failure. > > Jeff Wilson wrote: >> On 8/1/2010 7:57 AM, David Stockhoff wrote: >>> Vodalus also desired to be autarch (per Thea's remarks). If Vodalus >>> simply wants to put the exultants in charge, is everything else he says >>> bullshit? And how do we know? >> >> I'm not sure what you are getting at. If Vodalus wanted to be Autarch >> then he certainly fails, being dead and still not Autarch. It can be >> said that Severian is his servant and his servant is now Autarch, but >> that's no gain there either, since the last Autarch was just as much >> his servant as Severian. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >
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