Is Severian A Real Person?

brunians at brunians.org · 01 Aug 2010, 20:41 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 16:41:18 -0400
Subject: (urth) Is Severian A Real Person?
In-Reply-To: <4C55BF3D.7010103 at verizon.net>
References: <SNT123-W423593753D998442152F4FCFAC0 at phx.gbl>
	<4C55B581.5000704 at verizon.net>
	<8105e7f9156625cbf8f8a69f2bcb6cf0.squirrel at brunians.org>
	<4C55B932.9080408 at verizon.net>
	<774419725d92d87db3f375d6d186f0b1.squirrel at brunians.org>
	<4C55BF3D.7010103 at verizon.net>
Message-ID: <14296c38fd154e6f0e79ff46d2606c91.squirrel at brunians.org>

Because I enjoy fucking with weasels.

What's your forfeit to be?

.

> I didn't mention Severian at all or even TBotNS, so I can't scruple to
> do one or the other.
>
> Why do you scruple to read people's posts?
>
>
> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>> What is a scruple, Stockhoff?
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator says he
>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these mundane
>>>> observations.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> I did no such thing.
>>>
>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still, you scruple to call the narrator Severian.
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator says he
>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these mundane
>>>>> observations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee Berman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> brunians- The only difference between Severian and you and I is
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>> different Author
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I presume the Author of you and I is to be considered of an
>>>>>> intelligence
>>>>>> too vast,
>>>>>> penetrating, universal, inhuman and mysterious to ever be
>>>>>> comprehended
>>>>>> by us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How true is that of the intelligence of the author of Severian?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gurloes is a tragic and interesting figure.
>>>>>>> He is father to Severian in a way that Palaemon is not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. There are places in Wolfe's work where I am sure he is
>>>>>> referring to his
>>>>>> own wife and children in addition to his fictional characters. The
>>>>>> part
>>>>>> where he
>>>>>> describes Master Gurloes as being tragic, a complex man trying to
>>>>>> appear
>>>>>> simple,
>>>>>> someone who eats too much and not often enough, seems to be one of
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>> places.
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Urth Mailing List
>>>>>> To post, write urth at urth.net
>>>>>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
>>>>>> Virus Database (VPS): 100731-1, 07/31/2010
>>>>>> Tested on: 8/1/2010 8:59:14 AM
>>>>>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software.
>>>>>> http://www.avast.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Urth Mailing List
>>>>> To post, write urth at urth.net
>>>>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Urth Mailing List
>>>> To post, write urth at urth.net
>>>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
>>>> Virus Database (VPS): 100801-0, 08/01/2010
>>>> Tested on: 8/1/2010 2:09:19 PM
>>>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software.
>>>> http://www.avast.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Urth Mailing List
>>> To post, write urth at urth.net
>>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Urth Mailing List
>> To post, write urth at urth.net
>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>>
>>
>> ---
>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
>> Virus Database (VPS): 100801-0, 08/01/2010
>> Tested on: 8/1/2010 2:20:19 PM
>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software.
>> http://www.avast.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Urth Mailing List
> To post, write urth at urth.net
> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net