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Is Severian A Real Person?
brunians at brunians.org · 01 Aug 2010, 22:11
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From: brunians at brunians.org (brunians at brunians.org) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:11:29 -0400 Subject: (urth) Is Severian A Real Person? In-Reply-To: <4C55F02E.2090203 at verizon.net> References: <SNT123-W423593753D998442152F4FCFAC0 at phx.gbl> <4C55B581.5000704 at verizon.net> <8105e7f9156625cbf8f8a69f2bcb6cf0.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C55B932.9080408 at verizon.net> <774419725d92d87db3f375d6d186f0b1.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C55BF3D.7010103 at verizon.net> <14296c38fd154e6f0e79ff46d2606c91.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C55ED15.9050203 at verizon.net> <6951f24caaebf2fbe9a2d8770e3aeaa3.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C55F02E.2090203 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <c9a11138e0b4657800e2b3c9667fd313.squirrel at brunians.org> And if you prefer to continue digging, there is a reason why you want to go six feet down. . > I don't answer a silly question just because it's asked in a manner that > is relatively civil, compared to most of that person's questions. > > Call it a scruple. > > brunians at brunians.org wrote: >> You don't know what a scruple is. >> >> Else you would have answered my more or less civil question. >> >> What character in the Book of the New Sun do you identify with and why? >> >> . >> >> >> >>> I could lend you some scruples, but you'd waste them. >>> >>> brunians at brunians.org wrote: >>> >>>> Because I enjoy fucking with weasels. >>>> >>>> What's your forfeit to be? >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I didn't mention Severian at all or even TBotNS, so I can't scruple >>>>> to >>>>> do one or the other. >>>>> >>>>> Why do you scruple to read people's posts? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What is a scruple, Stockhoff? >>>>>> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator says >>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these mundane >>>>>>>> observations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did no such thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> brunians at brunians.org wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still, you scruple to call the narrator Severian. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I recall another passage in another work, where the narrator says >>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>> often thinks he doesn't drink enough water. I enjoy these mundane >>>>>>>>> observations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lee Berman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> brunians- The only difference between Severian and you and I is >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>> has a >>>>>>>>>>> different Author >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I presume the Author of you and I is to be considered of an >>>>>>>>>> intelligence >>>>>>>>>> too vast, >>>>>>>>>> penetrating, universal, inhuman and mysterious to ever be >>>>>>>>>> comprehended >>>>>>>>>> by us. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How true is that of the intelligence of the author of Severian? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gurloes is a tragic and interesting figure. >>>>>>>>>>> He is father to Severian in a way that Palaemon is not. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree. There are places in Wolfe's work where I am sure he is >>>>>>>>>> referring to his >>>>>>>>>> own wife and children in addition to his fictional characters. >>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>>>> where he >>>>>>>>>> describes Master Gurloes as being tragic, a complex man trying >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> appear >>>>>>>>>> simple, >>>>>>>>>> someone who eats too much and not often enough, seems to be one >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>> sort of >>>>>>>>>> places. >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Urth Mailing List >>>>>>>>>> To post, write urth at urth.net >>>>>>>>>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> avast! 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