seeking the truth (was: Re: Torturers?)
Jane Delawney · 06 Aug 2010, 00:37
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From: jane_delawney at sky.com (Jane Delawney) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:37:43 +0100 Subject: (urth) seeking the truth (was: Re: Torturers?) In-Reply-To: <4C5A119B.7010001 at gmail.com> References: <4C444D5A.3030909 at gmail.com> <4C50BFDC.6070306 at sky.com> <17ec46f0a1d8cb7f2f35ac68c85a4008.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C59FE50.6010904 at hyraxes.com> <AANLkTimDiv6qW=t3w3-i1FBzo4eTvq2F6UGYH90j0r95 at mail.gmail.com> <4C5A119B.7010001 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C5B5957.4050002 at sky.com> On 05/08/10 02:19, James Wynn wrote: > > I presumed it was only apprentices who were taught to ignore victims > words. Master tortures are those assigned to seeking truth. I don't think this can be quite accurate since in the context of Severian pretending to have forgotten the rule about 'clients' ' words, Master Gurloes reminds him of the 'bad old days' when journeymen of the Guild were deafened (possibly as a part of the ritual of elevation) - precisely, one is given to suppose, in order that they should not attend to anything said by the 'client'. The implication is that the condition is permanent, and so a deaf journeyman will make a deaf Master, who will not consequently be in a position to act as interrogator. Also I am sure there is a place in the early chapters of *Shadow* which mentions the possible presence at an 'excruciation' of a judicial official (what was the term? I'm sure it wasn't 'inquisitor' - far too obvious!- but none the less it was fairly clear that the person's role involved interrogation; I can't find the place right now but I'm sure someone will remember it) who appears to be tasked with the interrogation of the accused. As someone else said, the Guild's purpose at Severian's time involves judicial punishment and nothing else. The do not determine sentences, they do not question them, they are not interrogators; they just do what the courts require them to do. In fact - it has to be said - they are 'just obeying orders'. One of the notable things Severian does during his odyssey is break free of the early conditioning that has brought so many of his 'brothers' to accept what they do and continue on the path of the torturer. jd > > u+16b9 > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >
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