Severian's sister/ancestry - query.

Ryan Dunn · 06 Aug 2010, 13:36 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 09:36:43 -0400
Subject: (urth) Severian's sister/ancestry - query.
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I shouldn't have put quotes around dying. He truly meant to die for his sin.

...ryan

On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Ryan Dunn <ryan at liftingfaces.com> wrote:

> I meant the scene where he's offering Gurloes ways of "dying" so that his betrayal won't shame the guild, even though to do so would be illegal and immoral.
> 
> I believe he offers up drowning as an option, which sort of made me laugh on a second reading, knowing what we know of Severian and drowning.
> 
> ...ryan
> 
> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:14 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> When did Severian stage his own death?
>> 
>> Ryan Dunn wrote:
>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Dude, are we reading the same books? Sev says multiple times he's broken every oath he's ever made, every guild stricture, ...he breaks rules left and right, starting with treason as he breaks curfew on his way home from playing truant and swimming in polluted water. He is *literally* a rebellious youth from opening page until he crowns his career of evil by eating the king's brains!
>>>> 
>>>> Then he takes about a decade break and only lies,, cheats, and steals in the approved fashion of statecraft before he shows he still has what it takes to break all the rules by allying with alien monsters from another universe that help him destroy the world!
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You had me until alien monsters. Severian at no point that I saw allies with alien monsters with the intention of destroying Urth.
>>> 
>>> Do you really think his action of bringing the New Sun was breaking all the rules? And eating the king's brains was an act of evil? Are you sure?
>>> 
>>> He did break curfew, though, and was more than happy to help his masters deceive the Autarchy by staging his own death after giving Thecla the knife.
>>> 
>>> For starters.
>>> 
>>> ...ryan
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