Boatman as Inire

Jack Smith · 08 Aug 2010, 10:12 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: jack.smith.1946 at gmail.com (Jack Smith)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 06:12:36 -0400
Subject: (urth) Boatman as Inire
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I like  "UotNS is basically BotNS For Dummies."


On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> >Ryan Dunn: Another thing. I think in some ways, UotNS is basically BotNS
> For Dummies.
> >Zak is, to me, a demonstration of shapeshifting so undeniable that we may
> be prompted
> >to look back at the tetralogy and inspect that concept further. I think
> UotNS could be
> >used as a code breaker for several BotNS mysteries.
>
> >If you're smelling what I'm cooking, who might Zak/Tzdakiel be pointing to
> in BotNS? I
> >can think of no other candidate as good as Inire. Hethor maybe a close
> second, but Inire,
> >and monkey like sightings keep my arm hairs raised the more I read the
> original four books.
>
> I can whiff that funky cuisine bro. Zak does go through a primate phase,
> doesn't he. We see a
> character who resembles Hethor on the ship also, in the weird part where
> Severian is
> kidnapped and ordered to move like an Autarch hologram. I find that one of
> the most difficult
> scenes in the 5 books to comprehend. But working on it. What IS Hethor?
>
> I once might have thought some of the stuff that happens on Yesod is new
> stuff, but lately
> the sham of all that trial stuff seems to echo the sham of the
> Commonwealth-Ascia war
> (though such shams do kill people) and is perhaps akin to it. Burgundofora
> is sorta new as
> she seems to be a combination Mary Magdalene/Judas figure. Then again The
> Temptation of Typhon
> already sets up Severian as a Jesus-like figure.
>
> So, yeah, if everything else, B, F and O, The Conciliator, Ushas, Juturna,
> Apu Punchau, etc.,
> in UotNS refers back to  the first four books, what does the the evolution
> and shape shifting
> of shaggy blob apport, to monkey-like thing to Zak, to Tzadkiel, male and
> female refer back to?
> I certainly find it to be an interesting question.
>
> The part where Severian views Tzadkiel's portals as an advanced version of
> Father Inire's seems
> important to me. Perhaps all of the Commonwealth is run in a similar,
> though inferior, manner to
> Tzadkiel's ship (sham battles and wars to test character and loyalty
> included).
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-- 
Best wishes,
Jack
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