Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod

David Stockhoff · 10 Aug 2010, 01:33 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:33:19 -0400
Subject: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
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That is a very interesting theory and piece of evidence. We know very 
little about the larger story---that is, the one that spans universes.

This starts to expose that narrative.

Lee Berman wrote:
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> In Yesod, Severian speaks to Tzadkiel who tells him, 
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>> "..I am as I am, your own race having made us so before the apocatasatis. Were you not told
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> that they had shaped us in their image?"
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> Later Severian wonders why Tzadkiel disguised himself so he could hang out with Severian on the
> ship. Tzadkiel explains that if Severian had had a childhood hero, it would be only natural, if 
> given the chance to want to: 
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> "walk with him, ..Stand beside him when he was in danger..Care for him, perhaps, when he was ill."
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> This seems clear to me. Tzadkiel is saying that Severian's race created his and that Severian, as
> a major participant in this, is a legendary childhood hero of Tzadkiel's. 
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> I am open to hearing contradictory quotes from the text.
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> However, I do not find that mention of vanished creations or a past manvantara to be contradictory. 
> While one is in Yesod, Briah IS a vanished, long gone creation or past universe. I agree it can lead
> to some confusing speech.
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