Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod

Lane Haygood · 10 Aug 2010, 18:37 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: lhaygood at gmail.com (Lane Haygood)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:37:48 -0500
Subject: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
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Is the linearity of time a reputable concept that might conceivably be
shared by Severian and Apheta?  After all, some Hiero*s travel
backward in time relative to Severian.  Is BFO's past Severian's
future?  Certainly the narrative of Severian would place it so.

Then again, what little I know of physics seems rather consistent with
Apheta's statement.

LH

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Tony Ellis <tonyellis69 at btopenworld.com> wrote:
>> Lee Berman wrote:
>>My view is that Briah precedes Yesod in the cosmic timeline
>
> and David Stockhoff :
>> (2) In Yesod, Briah has indeed vanished. All of human history is in the past.
>
> In chapter XXII of UotNS, when Severian is in Yesod, he says: "They
> were people I'd known... Thecla, Agilus, Casdoe... Perhaps they're all
> dead now, all ghosts, though I didn't know it."
> Apheta corrects him: "They are unborn. Surely you know that time runs
> backward when the ship sails swiftly. I told you myself. They are
> unborn, as you are."
>
> If they have travelled back in time to get to Yesod, it can't be in
> Briah's future.
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