Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod

James Wynn · 10 Aug 2010, 19:49 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:49:00 -0500
Subject: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
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On 8/10/2010 1:26 PM, Tony Ellis wrote:
> In chapter XXII of UotNS, when Severian is in Yesod, he says: "They
> were people I'd known... Thecla, Agilus, Casdoe... Perhaps they're all
> dead now, all ghosts, though I didn't know it."
> Apheta corrects him: "They are unborn. Surely you know that time runs
> backward when the ship sails swiftly. I told you myself. They are
> unborn, as you are."
>
> If they have travelled back in time to get to Yesod, it can't be in
> Briah's future.

Well, she is saying that in Yesod they _are_ traveling back in Time, no? 
I'm not sure how to clamp this to what Severian said about Yesod in 
_Citadel_. This seems to draw Yesod as existing *within* Briah. At first 
blush, it looks like when writing UotNS, Wolfe had completely forgotten 
about the construct for his universes in tBotNS.

It does explain (a little) how Severian's actions with Apheta creates 
the New Sun since it would then take millennia for the light from that 
star to reach Urth.

u+16b9

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