Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod

Lee Berman · 11 Aug 2010, 17:29 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:29:42 -0400
Subject: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
Message-ID: <SNT123-W37A59AB4E85EE7FCA3F94BCF960 at phx.gbl>

>Tony Ellis: But if you think I?m ignoring passages you've posted that contradict 'the ship goes
>back in time to get to Yesod', you?re going to have to tell me which ones.

In Yesod, Severian speaks to Tzadkiel who tells him, 

>"..I am as I am, your own race having made us so before the apocatasatis. Were you not told
that they had shaped us in their image?"

Later Severian wonders why Tzadkiel disguised himself so he could hang out with Severian on the
ship. Tzadkiel explains that if Severian had had a childhood hero, it would be only natural, if 
given the chance to want to: 

"walk with him, ..Stand beside him when he was in danger..Care for him, perhaps, when he was ill."

I find it difficult to see how Severian's race could have created Tzadkiel's race if the Ship took 
Severian backward in time before humanity even existed. Much twisting and contortions needed.

Perhaps Apheta was mistaken or misunderstood in her contradictory words. Perhaps that is true of 
Tzadkiel's words. Perhaps we, as human beings are not even capable of understanding the thoughts of 
these superior beings.

Either way, I find it rather hasty to read one passage, ignore others and come to conclusions which
exclude all other conclusions.  I certainly don't exclude yours.

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