Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod

DAVID STOCKHOFF · 12 Aug 2010, 19:50 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (DAVID STOCKHOFF)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
In-Reply-To: <4C644D80.1020506 at gmail.com>
Message-ID: <974214.19629.qm at web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"Obviously there are. Whether they please you or not is a different matter."

OK, but you haven't given any reasons, so I am neither pleased nor displeased by them.

--- On Thu, 8/12/10, Ant?nio Marques <entonio at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ant?nio Marques <entonio at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 3:37 PM

DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote:
> "I mentioned dialog because narrative is the opposite. "
>
> Agreed.
>
> "It's meant as a full description for an unknowing audience."
>
> Usually. Not here.

Well, I meant the 'usually'.

> A well-known author---I can't recall who, but it wasn't Wolfe---once
> commented that storytelling isn't about providing information, not even
> in a strategic sequence. (I forget how it was put, so I'm paraphrasing.)
> It's actually about withholding information. Or, if you will, releasing
> it only in a carefully controlled manner.
>
> Or, in any discussion of Wolfe, not releasing it at all. (Or as Lee
> says, releasing it and then denying it. See also "leaking.")

There is a reason why people qualify 'narrator' with 'unreliable'.

Then of course all narrative in unreliable (I think 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Exactitude_in_Science was mentioned here 
recently).

> I understand that you think the Hiero makers are our homologues, but
> there's no real reason to think that.

Obviously there are. Whether they please you or not is a different matter.

> It's just one possibility Wolfe
> doesn't really address. In fact, it's based on what I'd say is an
> excellent example of a naive reading.
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