Urth Net

← back to the conversation

Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod

David Stockhoff · 13 Aug 2010, 15:22 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:22:47 -0400
Subject: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
In-Reply-To: <006d01cb3a9f$82b37080$51cf4a0c@rclackey>
References: <SNT123-W42A5FAD6E9232923981AECCF970 at phx.gbl>
	<006d01cb3a9f$82b37080$51cf4a0c@rclackey>
Message-ID: <4C656347.1070102 at verizon.net>

Can "plane" be captain-speak for "hyperspace"? Or is "eternity" closer 
to that meaning?

Roy C. Lackey wrote:
> When Severian was being returned to Urth from Yesod, the Ship somehow took a
> shortcut. Only a day or so after the trial, the Ship was just outside the
> Old Sun's system, somewhere "outside the circle of Dis." (XXVI, 186) Gunnie
> said:
>
> ------------------
> "You know what I mean. When I came on board with
> you, I thought we had a long voyage ahead of us. But why
> should they--Apheta and Zak--have done that? The
> ship's leaving eternity now, slowing down so the tender can
> find her. Until she slows down, she isn't really a ship at all,
> did you know? We're like a wave, or a shout going through
> the universe." (ibid.)
> -------------------
>
> The tender was waiting for them (187) and it took about another day for it
> to reach Urth. On the deck of the tender with Burdundofara, Sev complained
> to the tender captain about the rough ride to the surface:
>
> --------------------------
>     I managed to say that our arrival on Yesod had not been
> so violent.
>       He turned serious. "You didn't have much potential to
> lose there, you see. You'd used it up reaching the higher
> plane. We've come in without a rag to brake us, like we
> were falling into the star. Stay away from the railing for a
> bit. The wind there will broil the skin right off your arm." (XXVII, 193)
> --------------------------
>
> There it is again, as I said earlier, Yesod on a higher *plane*. And
> entropy. Not that this will make a damn bit of difference, but there it is.
>
> -Roy
>
> _______________________________________________
> Urth Mailing List
> To post, write urth at urth.net
> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 100812-1, 08/12/2010
> Tested on: 8/13/2010 12:26:05 AM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>
>
>
>   

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net