Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod

David Stockhoff · 13 Aug 2010, 15:31 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:31:31 -0400
Subject: (urth) Hierogrammates, Briah and Yesod
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That's exactly what I have proposed: branching Briahs. From the back 
end, these will look like multiple Briahs, although branches do die.

Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> From: "Ant?nio Marques" <entonio at gmail.com>
>> DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote:
>
>>> I agree that the homologue interpretation is valid. I don't see any
>>> confirming reason for it outside an analysis of Tzadkiel's remarks. All
>>> there is, is pushing the explanation farther and farther away: well,
>>> there's ANOTHER universe with ANOTHER race, and THEY created YESOD, 
>>> and ...
>>
>> Which actually is said in the text. Of course, the text may mean 
>> otherwise.
>>
>> You and Lee seem interested in not having more than two universes, 
>> Briah and Yesod. Others see little sense in that idea.
>
> I can accept that Wolfe was playing with the idea of multiple cycles, 
> but at the same time I think of this a possibility rather than the 
> only true reading of the text.
>
> Also, I wonder whether talk of more than one Briah is really 
> meaningful.  We have alternate timelines such as that of Ash and the 
> Green Man, which could be said to refer to two Briahs splitting from 
> one root.  We have other time shenannigans.  Yet nobody uses this to 
> argue for multiple Briahs, although the Briah of Ash is quite 
> different from the Briah of the Green Man, at least as far as Urth is 
> concerned.
>
> Okay, we can hypothesise that each Briah is a bundle of related 
> timelines that don't connect much to the set of timelines bundled 
> together as a different Briah, except at the start and finish of each 
> Briah.  Maybe that makes sense.  But I'm not sure such detailed 
> hypothethical cosmologies are a great jumping off point for further 
> analysis.  Even physicists are running out of useful detectable 
> signals that can distinguish between different cosmological hypotheses 
> these days.  We should recognise that this is likely for analysts of 
> BotNS also!
>
> - Gerry Quinn
>
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