The Key to the Universe...
Jeff Wilson · 13 Aug 2010, 17:07
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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:07:28 -0500 Subject: (urth) The Key to the Universe... In-Reply-To: <4C656254.2050002 at verizon.net> References: <35B1C458-F483-431F-8BB6-2D8654018019 at liftingfaces.com> <79E66951-A6FB-4451-9E92-6B8893114362 at liftingfaces.com> <4C656254.2050002 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <4C657BD0.1010301 at io.com> On 8/13/2010 10:18 AM, David Stockhoff wrote: > (1) Did they really connect to Briah from their universe? I don't see > that. It matters. > > (2) Severian's assessment of knowability regarding the Hieromakers is > exactly right. It's unknowable---neither provable nor disprovable that > they are us---whoever "us" is. > > (3) The "advancement" bit is similarly fuzzy. However, if the races > advance with each universe, one might guess that the Hieromakers lie in > later iterations (whatever that means) rather than earlier. > > In Yesod, Briahtic "later" and "earlier" mean nothing, so beings from > infinitely "future" iterations can shake hands there with blobby cavemen > from a "past" one. Per Severian, we can't tell whether the Hieromakers > lie in our within-iteration future or our later-iterative future, but > they must lie ahead, or else "we" (whoever "we" are) would be more > advanced than they. If this is correct, what prevents the Yesodis from directly accessing their original, immediate makers' iteration and having another go at Ascension? -- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com IEEE Student Chapter Blog at < http://ieeetamut.org >
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