The Key to the Universe

James Wynn · 13 Aug 2010, 23:26 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:26:41 -0500
Subject: (urth) The Key to the Universe
In-Reply-To: <4C65C9C3.5050708 at io.com>
References: <SNT123-W18321445B4F9D92C8EA14BCF980 at phx.gbl>	<4C65AB94.5090503 at io.com>	<4C65BDDE.6060204 at gmail.com>
	<4C65C9C3.5050708 at io.com>
Message-ID: <4C65D4B1.4020300 at gmail.com>

  On 8/13/2010 5:40 PM,  wrote:
> On 8/13/2010 4:49 PM,  wrote:
>> James Wynn - I mean, who knows what sort of things would interest an 
>> Intelligent Designer if such a person were located, and why would it 
>> matter? Even Richard Dawkins has accepted the concept of a personal 
>> Intelligent
>> Designer as a non-problem so long as the designer were understood to be
>> an alien race that developed according natural processes.
>
> Jeff Wilson - That's begging the question, in the original sense. 
> Somehow intelligence had arise for the first time in the universe, 
> unless you have a steady state universe where intelligence has always 
> existed. There is very strong support for the Big Bang, so the steady 
> state model is not convincing locally.

True. But, assuming one lived in an environment where all life was 
intelligently designed, questions about how an undefined intelligent 
life might have arisen naturally in an some unknown environment would be 
an entirely speculative question--beyond the realm of hard science. The 
principles of engineering would be the best path for understanding 
biology. Paleontology would be Architectural History.

u+16b9

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net