Wolfe's Attitude toward his Readers
Gwern Branwen · 14 Aug 2010, 20:14
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From: gwern0 at gmail.com (Gwern Branwen) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:14:46 -0400 Subject: (urth) Wolfe's Attitude toward his Readers In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W3357051532538312747CC7CF990 at phx.gbl> References: <SNT123-W3357051532538312747CC7CF990 at phx.gbl> Message-ID: <AANLkTin_C6RxCujEwUHACN7CAb8j2KKSh=dK7oHyycvq at mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>Gerry Quinn- But again - verisimiltude! ?Would Pas's engineers and quartemasters have >>used strings of numbers, or a panoply of teratoid icons? ?I expect that >>somewhere in Mainframe is a big list of what all vaults on the Whorl >>originally contained, indexed by number. ?In a more controlled >>disembarkation, instructions would be passed down regarding which were to be >>opened. > > Gerry, thanks for the entropy explanation. I understand what you mean. > > Still having trouble with your verisimiltude. We understand that Wolfe shows us certain > symbols that Severian or Silk is incapable of understanding. ?My gut feeling is still that > if Wolfe wanted to depict a number sequence that WE also cannot understand then he would > describe it that way: "He saw the Seal of Pas and it had a block of incomprehensibly organized > numbers". From this description we just as easily can figure out they are vault container > index numbers or whatever. > > By actually giving us the numbers, organized in sequence, I feel Wolfe is expecting us to be > able to figure them out, even if Silk can't. In similar fashion I don't think Severian really > knows what teratoid or gnostic symbols are. But WE can interpret that they mean there is > something akin to monsters in Father Inire's wing of the House Absolute and that Witches deal > in mysterious, arcane knowledge. If he called the symbols an ankh or a swastika, I think > we would be expected to come to different conclusions. > > As the numbers are organized into 9 groups of four digits, and each group of four digits adds > up to a number which is less than 27, my best guess is that it is a cryptogram. Perhaps it > lists the initials of the 9 gods of the Whorl. Perhaps the cryptogram solves to the 9 letters- > Typhon-Pas. Or perhaps it spells out the 9 letter name of the true monarch and creator of the > Whorl, GENE WOLFE. We need more hidden wolves in Long Sun, don't we? > > But since I can't figure out a cryptogram from it that makes any of these work, I must defer to > your explanation as the best working hypothesis we have going (that I know of). > > 5553 8783 4223 9700 34 > 2221 0401 1101 7276 56 > SEALED FOR THE MONARCH I would like to be be 'Gene Wolfe' (he is the true monarch of the books, after all!), but if that's the solution, the cipher must be fairly complex - not a straight substitution. Notice that 'Gene Wolfe' has 3 'e's in it, while there's not a single repeated 4 or 2-digit group. Staring, I don't see any interesting regularities. There is one repetition in the sum of each group: [18,26,11,16,7,7,5,3,22,21]. mod 10 doesn't show anything interesting: [8,6,1,6,7,7,5,3,2,1]. mod 2: [0,0,1,0,1,1,1,1,0,1]. If we drop the 2 2-digit groups to get 00101110, that's an ASCII '-', decimal 046, octal 056, and hex 02E. Each group begins with a different number, covering 0-9 except for 6 - which has bad connotations religiously, of course. As for end-digits, the 3x2 grid on the left all end in odd numbers - 3 or 1, while the 2x2 block on the right ends in the even numbers 0, 4, 6. But there is so little to go on that this could just be numerology. -- gwern
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