Standard Wolfean Riddle
Ryan Dunn · 16 Aug 2010, 13:31
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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:31:21 -0400 Subject: (urth) Standard Wolfean Riddle In-Reply-To: <4C693AA0.4090309 at gmail.com> References: <SNT123-W6197C26BEFD9A437D4C725CF980 at phx.gbl> <4C65544B.7080301 at gmail.com> <0542F1EE-1D99-4671-9E9E-B80B19CF8C11 at liftingfaces.com> <4C658AD6.5020902 at verizon.net> <4C65A642.4090900 at gmail.com> <4C6741B7.70908 at gmail.com> <4C6925B9.50009 at verizon.net> <4C693AA0.4090309 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <C13CF7F0-454B-49B4-8CC7-6C39FB6B3594 at liftingfaces.com> On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> wrote: > David Stockhoff wrote (16-08-2010 12:49): >> This shift in focus to the universes might be a way out from a sticky >> problem, but you seem to propose that each Jesus is identically >> Jesus-like but not necessarily identically effective. Why are some >> Jesuses less effective? Why do some fail utterly? > > It's not a problem with the Jesuses, it's the world that doesn't live up to them. The idea is that ultimately there is free will, and God's creatures may will themselves into damnation. It's not like we're not going down that route ourselves. At a certain point, the responsibility of salvation becomes the creatures'. What if, in the fiction of BotNS, Wolfe made his own history, mythology, etc. Where we have analogies to things like Christianity, but there never actually was a Jesus per se. That way, Severian's can be the savior without any heretical concern, and instead of being sacrilege, Wolfe can have established a parable for his and our real world. Severian can be the Conciliator, Apu Punchau, the Autarch, and Bringer of the New Sun, as many Urth Cycles as Wolfe pleases. Seems cleaner. ...ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20100816/f2e0101c/attachment.htm>
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