The Two Katharines

Ryan Dunn · 16 Aug 2010, 19:07 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:07:33 -0400
Subject: (urth) The Two Katharines
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On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:

>>> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes- Nobody is surprised by a resurrection. Ergo, no resurrection takes place.
>> 
>> 
>> Who has sugggested there was a resurrection? Not me, anyway. The only people I can see who are
>> proposing a resurrection are those who are trying to argue against it.
>> 
>> What is the term ...hay something....?
> 
> I think you're missing the point. If there's no resurrection, nobody dies.

Lee, this is the passage which implies part of the ritual is that Holy Katharine is resurrected and then "knight's thee" torturer...

"She took the wax head from Master Gurloes and pretended to replace it on her shoulders, slipping it by some sleight into the fuligin cloth, then standing before us radiant and whole. I knelt before her, and the others withdrew.

She raised the sword with which I had so lately struck off her head; the blade was bloody now from some contact with the wax. "You are of the torturers," she said."

He lops off her head with a false blade (which met resistance for a moment on the wax head upon impact), and then she gets up, headless, to put the wax head back on her shoulders. Then she dubs Severian "of the torturers" and the elevation is complete.

Do you not see the resurrection there? If she gets up from the dead and puts the head back on, then she didn't really die, did she?

...ryan
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