Patera Incus

James Wynn · 16 Aug 2010, 20:16 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:16:55 -0500
Subject: (urth) Patera Incus
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  On 8/16/2010 2:18 PM, Roy C. Lackey wrote:
> If nothing that I, or Wolfe, or anyone else*can*  say can change your mind,
> well, that speaks for itself. There is nothing left to say.

Wolfe has said it already in the text in many various ways. So, 
properly, you should say "anything *more* Wolfe can say".

As for you, Roy, the majority of the most important proofs that Incus is 
female are philosophically beyond your willingness to look at, let alone 
dispute. So there ya are.

Anyone else? If someone were prepared to discuss the mythology of 
Aristaeus as detailed by Pindar, Herodotus' History of the Persian War, 
Plutarch's Lives, and Robert Graves' "The Greek Myths" (all important 
references for Wolfe at least through the 80s and 90s) then I suppose we 
could have a starting place to dispute. Then we could move on to 
Hesphaestus, Apollo, and Orion and the other things.

But if it's just a matter of going round and round on the subject of 
whether it means anything that Incus underlined "a woman" and "myself" 
in the letter to Fulmar  (as you and I surely would do), or whether all 
the associations between the word "hymen" and Incus's name is mere 
nephelomancy,  well, what's the point? _I'm right on this issue. You are 
wrong._ You just don't have the background in certain specific items of 
literature to see that you are wrong. And it makes you spit nails if 
anyone says that a lack of anything besides the text itself would make 
one of Wolfe's puzzles unsolvable beyond any doubt.

If I tell you "This artwork of splotches contains a picture of Jesus" 
and your only answer is "I don't see it and it's not there" , then where 
are we going to go from that? I'd rather discuss something productively. 
How about the fact that Pike's Ghost is the Rajan in dream-travel what 
that would mean about the old patera's true heritage? Or that Rose's 
hands belonged to Molybdenum. I'm prepared to argue about that without 
reference to anything but the text.

u+16b9
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