Grand Unified Theory
James Wynn · 25 Aug 2010, 15:50
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:50:18 -0500 Subject: (urth) Grand Unified Theory In-Reply-To: <4C753691.7090403 at gmail.com> References: <SNT123-W15E8699921C55C8728319CCF840 at phx.gbl> <4C752BA3.5010103 at gmail.com> <4C753691.7090403 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C753BBA.2060902 at gmail.com> >> Wynn - The word "typhoon" comes from "Typhon" -- not that it would >> prevent >> Wolfe from associating the two anyway if he wanted to. > > Marques - That's actually open to question. > - _Typhon_ is an english spelling pronunciation of greek <tu'fwn>, > which would be more or less 'two FAWN' [tu'fO:n] if read 'correctly'. > - _typhoon_ is an english transcription of [tai'fun], from some > language spoken along the margins of the Indic ocean. > > Even if one posits that [tai'fun] is ultimately from the greek, one > still would have to explain how did greek [tu] become [tai]. The > english [ai] is merely from the english great vowel shift compounded > with a misreading of greek <y> as [i], which it never was. Had english > gotten the word by natural borrowing, rather than in misread written > form centuries after, it wouldn't have [ai]. > > Not impossible, but unlikely. Well, I'm not a linguist so I can't begin to break it down. But each language has it's own special tendencies to change over time. And the vowels change the fastest. The most common etymology I have read is that "typhon" came to Hindi through Parsi in order to become "typhoon". So there's a lot of room for mischief in there. But I'm sure you are right that there are alternate assertions by people who know a lot more about it than me. Still, the spellings and meanings are similar enough that I have no doubt Wolfe would happily associate them even if he knew for a fact that the words had no real etymological connection. u+16b9
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