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Grand Unified Theory

James Wynn · 29 Aug 2010, 00:38 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:38:21 -0500
Subject: (urth) Grand Unified Theory
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> Dave Tallman  - I'm not sure how significant Orpine is herself. Silk 
> never met her while she was alive. 

Oh no! I'm quite certain Orpine herself is significant somehow. I 
believe she is Blood's daughter (thus a connection to Mucor), but I 
think there is more than that. Her murder was prophesied in Silk's first 
enlightenment, but then she appears in his second enlightenment on his 
wedding night.

> "It was as if there were shooting stars in his hands, like the stars 
> at the bottom of the grave to which Silk and Hyacinth had driven 
> Orpine's body in a dream he recalled with uncanny clarity."  That was 
> on the Whorl, before Silkhorn came to Blue, so the dream he remembered 
> must be the one in LotLS. I don't understand much of that dream, but 
> it seems to be a prophetic, enlightened one. It told him if he went 
> deep enough in the Whorl he would see the stars and that he must 
> journey there: "Too deep" and "Too long."  (At the time of the dream 
> he had not seen the stars yet for himself). Covering the face of 
> Hyacinth with the cloth used for Orpine seems to foretell that she 
> would die before he reached Blue.

Well, I'm not comfortable agreeing or disagreeing with this 
explanation-- or in anyway suggesting I know what these dreams mean. 
What's worse, they might mean more than one thing. But Silk taking Hy 
and Orpine to a grave of stars could mean many things, I think. 
Essentially, it connects them anything outside the Whorl. It could 
potentally mean that Orpine and Hyacinth are _destined_ to for Blue or 
Green. I really don't know nearly enough about Orpine. I just need more 
facts or an overall theory that can be confirmed or disputed.

u+16b9

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