Seawrack's name

entonio at gmail.com · 29 Aug 2010, 15:16 · from 2010-August.txt.gz

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From: entonio at gmail.com (entonio at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 16:16:11 +0100
Subject: (urth) Seawrack's name
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No dia 2010/08/29, ?s 04:27, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>  
escreveu:

>
>> Antonio Marques: I don't know whether this has been pointed out  
>> before, but it is a
>> fact that 'Seawrack' and 'Scylla' are almost equal as names go. Or,  
>> at least, the name
>> misheard as 'Seawrack' could easily be a derivate of the name
>> misconstrued(?) as 'Scylla'...Yes, I know I've been implying that  
>> the greek pronunciation
>> of a name such as Scylla would be something like ['skulla] 'SKOOL  
>> luh'.

(not uh but the vowel in 'car')

> I hope I am not being insulting in noting that the English  
> pronunciation of Scylla usually
> involves a silent "c" like scissors or scintillating. This would  
> bring Scylla's
> pronunciation even closer to Seawrack.

Yes, that's what I meant. I brought up the Greek just to explain why I  
think it doesn't matter here.


> But Horn is very familiar with the female name "Scylla" from his  
> religious studies and I
> can't see how he could hear that name and feel the need to  convert  
> it to "seawrack"

Because he wouldn't be hearing 'Scylla' but rather the original that  
got misheard/construed as 'Scylla', or a derivate of that.

> Apologies for redundant posts, but for me the even closer similarity  
> of "shipwreck" to
> "seawrack" gnaws at me as an intended association.

I got that, but I don't find it logical (of course the name itself  
makes sense, but not to me the way

>
> We know that the purpose of the mythological sirens was to cause  
> shipwrecks. Moreover these
> quotes suggest to me that was Seawrack's original purpose also:
>
>> Horn: The real riddle concerning Seawrack is this: If the Mother  
>> took care of Seawrack in
>> order that Seawrack might lure others....did the Mother send her  
>> back among her own kind so
>> that she might lure more or lure them better?
>
>> Seawrack: "You were dead...I saw you down there. Dead things are  
>> food... You were dead...
>> Dead people are to eat."
>
>> Horn: "The sea goddess, Do you know her name?"
>
>> Seawrack: "No, if I ever did I've forgotten it. I don't want to  
>> remember her anymore...I'm
>> going to try to forget the song...and forget the water and the  
>> underwater woman and the boats
>> underwater with people in them. That was why I wouldn't eat your  
>> fish.  I don't want to eat
>> fish or drowned meat, never any more."
>
>> Horn: "Somewhere she is singing for me at this moment....Seawrack  
>> has beyond any question found
>> her way back to the waves and the spume, the secret currents, and  
>> her black, wave-washed rocks.
>> There will come a stormy midnight when I throw off the blankets...I  
>> will put out then in whatever
>> boat I can find and you will not see me more. Do not mourn me  
>> Nettle.  Every man must die and I
>> know what death I long for"
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