Wind God
Andrew Mason · 05 Nov 2010, 19:05
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From: andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com (Andrew Mason) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 19:05:48 +0000 Subject: (urth) Wind God Message-ID: <AANLkTi=AKzj==rG2WqQv1FoXA1NG+ZDQPg3yqyKBS9oO at mail.gmail.com> Um. Jesus is of course not essential to my theory - the Conciliator might be a composite figure whether or not Jesus was one of those who contributed to the composite. Also relevant to this is something said, I think, by Agia which suggests that the Conciliator lived thirty thousand years ago. That might be just because Wolfe hadn't worked out Typhon's dates when he wrote it, but it could also point to the idea of multiple appearances. On the Jesus question: I'm not sure it matters for this purpose whether Urth is Earth, since if it is not, it nevertheless has a past _very_ like the actual history of Earth, including Fair Rosamund, Marlowe, Mary Shelley, Lewis Carroll, etc. I find it hard to imagine that a world could contain all this without containing Jesus, whose absence must surely have knocked history off-course quite a bit. There are quite a few references to the Old Testament in the cycle, including a direct quotation (Joseph's dream) in _Urth_. There is nothing explicit from the New Testament as far as I can remember; the nearest is a reference in Dr Talos's play to raising sons from stones, but that might alternatively be connected with Deucalion. There does seem to have been something very like the Catholic Church (and, on the basis of things said last time this came up, the Orthodox Church as well) in the past of Urth - again, it is hard to imagine that without Jesus. However, whatever is the case in _New Sun_, it seems to me that _Long Sun_, which I am just reading now, is much more explicit. The evidence Gerry Quinn has brought up is relevant, but the clearest thing seems to me to be the story about the Outsider, 'through a man he had posseessed and enlightened', whipping the sellers of sacrificial animals. This is not theologically accurate, of course - you wouldn't expect that of the Chrasmological Writings - but it seems clear enough what story it is referring to.
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